Early today I had an opportunity to visit the Wellington headquarters of the New Zealand Rugby Union (NZRU), at the invitation of David Barton-Ginger who serves as the online manager. The New Zealand Rugby Union is the governing body of rugby in New Zealand, administering all parts of the game in NZ from grass roots, Air New Zealand Cup, Rebel Sport Super 14 and the All Blacks (the national team).
David has a challenge and he would like your help.
While he has gotten started with social media (see below for details), David is in the middle of a process to convince the managers of NZRU to "lose control" and jump feet first into the swirling waters of social media.
His goals are to inform existing fans from around the world and to bring new fans to the All Blacks who may purchase shirts, caps and other items and may buy tickets to attend games.
David has a big meeting coming up in a few days and he needs to know, from you, why a sports team with fans all over the world should pay close attention to social media.
What in particular should David be doing? Please leave a comment here if you can help.
All Blacks and social media
During the season when the All Blacks are playing, the site gets more than a half million unique visitors per month. Interestingly, 80% of web visitors are from overseas.
David knows that he needs to use social media to reach fans. Several weeks ago he started a Twitter feed @NZRU and an All Blacks Facebook page and he also has a YouTube channel. These are all new initiatives.
David also administers The Direct Line on the All Blacks site. Each month NZRU selects five questions submitted by fans and put them to NZRU CEO Steve Tew to answer via video (which David films). For example, in a recent video Tew gives a brief explanation why players tend to not swap their jerseys on the field after a game anymore.
David has been with the team for five years. Like many people who gravitate to building content-rich Web sites and experimenting with social media, he came to his work by accident. "I was a foreign exchange trader with Westpac and then went to live in London for a few years and worked in banking there too. But I was looking for something more creative. I came back to New Zealand and on a whim attended a Web design course. I really enjoyed it so I started doing some Web project management in the banking industry."
Then the opportunity with the New Zealand Rugby Union came up and David grabbed it. "It was a three-month temporary assignment, but I'm still here after five years," he says.
David says while he is a big All Blacks fan, he tries to put his role first and look at things from a web perspective. He thinks that if he were much more passionate about the team, it would sometimes be more difficult to do his job.
OK, David here’s my idea.
I really think you need to play up the Haka more on the site and in social media. I suggest you consider creating a microsite with photos and video of the All Blacks and the Haka. For many new rugby fans, the Haka is the first thing that separates the All Blacks from other teams.
FYI, in case you don't know, the Haka is a traditional war dance of the Maori, the indigenous people of New Zealand. New Zealand's national rugby team, the All Blacks, perform a Haka war chant prior to each match. In the rugby world, the All Blacks performing the Haka is definitely a World Wide Rave. I've seen this at the Hong Kong Rugby Sevens and can confirm that it intimidates the other teams.
Check out the All Blacks version of the Haka here.
How about you?
What would you suggest David does to promote the All Blacks via social media?





I'm not a sports fan (so probably wouldn't buy any souvenirs or book a flight to NZ) but I love the idea of the team doing the Maori war dance before the games! I will post the video to my Facebook page.
Posted by: Dina | April 17, 2009 at 05:55 PM
I've been looking at Wildfire app (FBs contest app) and they have the ability to video contests. I think if they urged fans to recreate the Maori dance and submit their version and give away prize packs or tickets it could get some notice. Just a thought though.
Posted by: Seth | April 17, 2009 at 06:01 PM
I would focus on kids. If you have players that can be showcased as positive role models there is a lack of that in Pro Sports. What about a series of videos geared towards kids showing how the game of Rugby is played and explaining the rules? How about a Baby Haka or Baby All Blacks Clothing Line? Dads that are fans would buy these items which leads to further promotion.
Posted by: Big Geek Daddy | April 17, 2009 at 08:42 PM
David - I hope you are enjoying New Zealand.
As you know, I'm a Kiwi living in the UK - have been here for 8 years - and am probably going to be here for many years to come. I follow the All Blacks passively (but passionately when I do) and from time to time get to see them in live matches here. (My three most recent matches were Twickenham, Cardiff and Paris).
David (Barton-Ginger), it's been ages since I've been on allblacks.com, and I am not really "following" fixtures, news etc closely enough. At present, I find out about what's going on almost by accident.
But I'll follow you guys on Twitter in a heart beat.
You see, it's easy, and (this is very important) it's the way I want to receive information and have conversations. So if YOU join ME on Twitter, we'll have conversations. But if you expect me to go to your website to find out what's going on, I'm not likely to get there.
In summary: I'm not rugby mad, so NZRU is not on my radar. But if we are following each other on Twitter, and you tweet interesting stuff, I am likely to be much more aware of what NZRU is doing, current fixtures etc etc.
So: my suggestion - get a bunch of key NZRU people on Twitter. Get some All Blacks on Twitter. Run some promotions on Twitter. And watch the impact it has on your web traffic and ultimately your business.
That's just for starters. Then there's always video. But what would I know about that??
Posted by: Mark from yBC | April 17, 2009 at 08:51 PM
I totally thought this was a racial thing when I first saw it.
Posted by: Stacy Lukas | April 18, 2009 at 02:01 AM
For David Barton-Ginger:
Maybe you will find some useful ideas about promoting sports online, using blogs, other tools, in my last e-book "The 2 Marketing Steps Every Women's Basketball Team Should Make". The second part of e-book is mostly about the presence online, about encouraging players to start blogging, podcasting, using other social media tools.
You can download it from by blog www.positioningstrategy.com or directly here: http://www.positioningstrategy.com/ebooks/The_2_Marketing_Steps.pdf
Also I would like to hear from you about your experience and results of your efforts. Maybe David Meerman Scott will allow you to post a post about the results of your experiments here after a while?
Posted by: Linas Simonis, PositioningStrategy | April 18, 2009 at 05:47 AM
The Haka is beyond bad ass. If any sports entity has the unique opportunity to seize global attention through social media it's the All Blacks.
Posted by: Stuart Foster | April 18, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I agree with building on what makes the All Blacks unique.
What about people submitting their own videos to your you tube channel. Haka from around the world. With the World Cup coming up perhaps a World Cup twitter account to build up a following pre world cup. Add into the mix some blog posts by individual All Blacks.
Posted by: Lee Hales | April 18, 2009 at 09:02 PM
Some great and helpful tips there thanks David MS!! You can see there are comments from all over. In addition to the above, I'd leverage off the pockets of fans the AB's have all over the world - in France, US, Aus, Japan, Canada etc and use social media to do this. Rugby's biggest threat in NZ is soccer - so look to what the football clubs are doing also.
Galvanise an already huge existing community and support them. Give them special offers.
Understand the different fan 'personas' i.e Dad, kids under 12, women, non- kiwis, farmers, corporate etc etc
Siobhan Bulfin
Marketing Now!
Wellington, New Zealand
Posted by: Siobhan Bulfin | April 18, 2009 at 09:08 PM
Speaking as one from the women target group (or the women persona as mentioned by Siobhan), I watch rugby for the fit bods and legs, as well as for the game (obviously ;-), so definetly need to get some of the well known and the up and coming ABs on Twitter and for me you need to show what they're made of - on the field and off - with competitions and give-away's to encourage take up of whatever you want our target segment to do! Come back Dan all is forgiven!
Posted by: Wendy Adams | April 18, 2009 at 10:41 PM
I'd personally like to hear rather less about the All Blacks rather than more!
They already saturate every day in NZ - they can't sneeze without it being reported as "news". I would hardly say that they needed any more marketing at all, personally.
Rugby is only a game involving a ball - ultimately it is a sometimes interesting but always pointless diversion from real life!
If social marketing is a means to direct this at those who want to hear about it rather than at everyone regardless of whether they do or not, I am all for it!
Posted by: Bill & Ted | April 18, 2009 at 10:46 PM
As a fan of rugby and New Zealand, it's great to see the Twitter. I'd recommend breakout sessions, brainstorming about specific topics, such as how to use social media as a tool to promote the upcoming World Cup (which will be held in NZ).
Posted by: Ron Mader | April 19, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Hi David MS
- Great webinar at the Digital World Conference a few weeks back. Really enjoyed it, thank you.
Hi David BG,
I really like the Haka ideas posted above. On a similar note you could also accept 'video' questions and edit these into the Q&A sessions that already exist. I think viewers might get a kick out of seeing themselves associated in such a high profile way with the team.
If going down the Twitter route, you'll need 'buy in' from the team in order to make the conversation worthwhile. Find some media and technology savvy All Blacks (there must be one or two) and get them on Twitter. Get them tweeting about games, the team, training etc.
What about a series of videos, maybe a video style blog especially in the run up to big games & competitions. While footage of the games might be owned by tv channels, you have access to the best known rugby team in the world. You have the ability to create as much interesting exclusive content and use that to leverage the social media strategy and build customers.
There's other options like a regular All Blacks podcast that fans around the world could download. Get fans submitting photo's from games to build up photo albums of matchs. This could work with the Facebook page.
Just thinking back to Irelands (winning!) Six Nations campaign last month. There was so much opportunity lost by the team to connect with fans outside of traditional media. Ireland went (and still is) rugby crazy, it has overtaken football (soccer) in terms of fans for now anyway. Periods like this when big competitions are on would act as times to drive recruitment to the social media communication, as the games themselves will generate the interest. Its during the downtime when generating content to drive visitors to the site will prove hardest. But with access to the team it shouldn't prove impossible.
Best of luck with it.
Luke
Posted by: Luke Abbott | April 19, 2009 at 05:25 PM
Hi David, if the powers that be need convincing of the potential for social media to connect with fans, suggest they check out the Twitter community following athletes like Lance Armstrong. The personalisation allowed by social media can compensate for some of the over exposure of the AB's brand in mainstream media. Cheers, Paul
Posted by: Paul O'Leary | April 19, 2009 at 09:20 PM
Hey David,
Great to hear you shifting into this space, what the All Blacks lacks imho opinion online is a real sense of community. Real fans are spread out in a fragmented fashion.
I would be focusing on building a real All Blacks community, the community will then attract others to join.
Grab Seth Godins latest book Tribes give it a read, will give you some inspiration. Twitter is a great start, as someone else mentioned you will get interactions from people that aren't as much fans as they could be.
Throwing some ideas out there:
- All Blacks Social Network, where fans can interact with the all blacks.
- Haka competition, do it for kids though, as that involves them and their parents. Give them tickets to a game and meet the All Blacks
- Get the All Blacks on twitter, or have Graham Henry on Twitter during a match, relaying what's going on. Risky but worth a shot.
- Blog! Have an insider on the team blogging as they follow the All Blacks around, videos from the locker, photos, expose the behind the scenes action to real fans.
Hit me up on twitter @bwagy if you want to have a chat. Enjoy this journey it is very rewarding.
Posted by: Ben Young | April 20, 2009 at 07:05 PM
Thank you all for the great comments. I'm sure that the ideas will be helpful to (the other) David and the team.
Posted by: David Meerman Scott | April 21, 2009 at 05:56 AM
I suggest you do the SocialTraffic Course. Youtube is a great way to get your site to number one, we just proved this via a new tactic used. Integration, Content Syndication, there is much to do and it can all be hands free and viral.
Lisa
Ps I am kiwi and patriotic.
Posted by: Lisa Lomas | April 26, 2009 at 04:06 AM
His biggest problem is to convince the "suits" that social media is going to help.
These people only understand numbers - so he needs to get some numbers.
Have some special deals - eg discounted tickets or merchandise - that is ONLY advertised in the social media channels. Then track who and how many people click through and how many buy.
This will also help to see which channels work best for the All Black fans.
John in Christchurch
Posted by: John Hyde | April 26, 2009 at 11:59 PM
New Zealand All Blacks: Experimenting with social media to reach global fans <-- Wonderful to read!
Posted by: Truth about Abs | August 30, 2010 at 08:10 AM